Winter down jacket?

Discussion in 'Clothing & Footwear' started by Stuart f, Oct 29, 2019.

  1. Stuart f

    Stuart f Summit Camper

    Just noticed that the ultra jacket in the sale is 900 fill instead of the usual 1000 fill. Cumulus looking more appealing if I can get my head around which size due to their fitted slim fit ( great for warmth if get the size correct)
  2. Snowonher

    Snowonher Summit Camper

    How much coverage of the face do you get with a PHD ultra hood? From some pics I've found it looks like it stops just under the chin and doesn't add any height to the collar
  3. PhilHo

    PhilHo Thru Hiker

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  4. PhilHo

    PhilHo Thru Hiker

  5. jack4allfriends

    jack4allfriends Summit Camper

  6. Balagan

    Balagan Thru Hiker

    Much as I like a bargain, I will take that 1000 CUIN claim with a spade of salt until it is verified by someone who own this and a 1000 FP jackect from the likes of PHD or Montbell.
    Last edited: Nov 21, 2019
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  7. el manana

    el manana Thru Hiker

    It's a proper Montbell rip off that one. The 174g is the weight of the jacket, the fill weight is less than 80g. Not a winter jacket.

    My understanding was 1000FP is incredibly difficult to get hold of, especially in production line volumes, agree it's unlikely to be true.
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  8. Cranston

    Cranston Thru Hiker

    Or not at all? Unicorn and dragon stuff isn't it? Or is it?
  9. PhilHo

    PhilHo Thru Hiker

    I've had Naturehike things and have been very happy with the quality. I'm more inclined to believe this claim from them than from other Chinese outdoors manufacturers. I've seen that vest at $42 delivered. You're not going to go far wrong at £32.50 (today's $/£ conversion). Or a 174g jacket for £50.
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  10. el manana

    el manana Thru Hiker

    I agree, i think it will be decent quality and you cannot complain at that price. But it won't be 1000 fp for whatever difference thats going to make. The sales literature is just a copy of the Plasma.
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  11. PhilHo

    PhilHo Thru Hiker

    I have an original Montane Anti-Freeze jacket with 170g of 750+ Ukrainian goose down, in perfect condition so can't justify another even at £50. Or at least my wife would think I've gone off my rocker. The vest on the other hand mmmmmmmm!

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    Last edited: Nov 22, 2019
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  12. jack4allfriends

    jack4allfriends Summit Camper

    I agree as well. If I need something for general 3 season use I'd go for Cumulus or something better, but if I'd want insulation for summer only that vest (+ fleece & winshirt) is nice value proposition. Don't invest to much cause you won't use it to much. ..keep telling myself :banghead:

    I think we should talk winter jackets though:hilarious:
  13. Stuart f

    Stuart f Summit Camper

    I still can’t decide on the damn trousers. I want the cheap price from the Chinese ducks but don’t know if I can love with myself. Might still have to get the cumulus offering to maintain my wavering moral compass:banghead:
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  14. Stuart f

    Stuart f Summit Camper

    Correction...... live with myself, not love! :banghead:
    Well not on Fridays anyway ;)
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  15. Gordon

    Gordon Trail Blazer

    I've never ordered from AliExpress/Naturehike before.

    I've ordered the vest, more out of curiosity, but, I can't go far wrong for the price ............
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  16. PhilHo

    PhilHo Thru Hiker

    I'll be very interested to read what you think about it. I would have ordered one myself but I've been reminded that someone has put an OMM Rotor vest away for me for Christmas. Still two vests are better than one.
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  17. Gordon

    Gordon Trail Blazer

    It was, partly, Balagan's comment that prompted my purchase: I have a PHD Waferlite Vest - 1000 fp ( bought in their Sale a few years ago). It will be interesting to compare how they feel. I'm not expecting much, but, then I'm not paying much either.
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  18. Lempo

    Lempo Thru Hiker

    Layer them up and call it an investment. ;)

    I'll get me coat...
    Last edited: Nov 23, 2019
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  19. Balagan

    Balagan Thru Hiker

    The comparison will be interesting. I'm pretty sure the Naturehike jacket is a decent product. I'm just not completely sold on the 1000 CUIN hype.
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  20. Diddi

    Diddi Thru Hiker

    Adds 1 to basket just incase :D
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  21. Bob-W

    Bob-W Trail Blazer

    Just remembered this question and I've put on my PHD Yukon jacket I got as a present earlier this year. I've also checked the lighter Summerline jacket. Both hoods wrap under the chin so your full face is open, maybe a cm or so is added to the collar height.
  22. Snowonher

    Snowonher Summit Camper

    Thanks for the info. A little dissapointing as I normally like hunkering down with the collar almost to my nose, but I'll see how it is when my ultra arrives.
  23. Gordon

    Gordon Trail Blazer

    After ages, it arrived today.

    Seems to be well constructed.

    There's no collar, but it does have a draw cord hem, two hand-warmer pockets and a full front zip and plastic press fastenings. It's a YKK zip and seems OK. Weighs in at 145 grms for a Large, which fits me well (40" chest) - room for a light fleece etc. It is a bit on the short side compared to a PHD Vest. The material is a bit shiny, but not too much. The filling seems OK and is held in roughly 15 x 15 cms squares - it feels fairly plump. It's not really possible to say if the filling is 1000 CUIN but I think it's OK for the price I paid - just shy of £37 delivered. No photos, but, the description/photos for the Vest gave a fair idea of what I expected/received.

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