Knot large Oct...

Discussion in 'Shelters & Accessories' started by Enzo, Aug 24, 2019.

  1. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

    Hi all,
    I've had three tents in this series of knot shelters and it may not come as a suprise to some of you that I rate them....

    Anyhow I ordered the HUGE version, 3.7m square and 2.5m high for spacious family camping, should get 2 of the 2p inners in there and still have space for cooking and chilling out of the rain.
    As usual I ordered through YUKI on AliEx, and it came in two weeks or so.
    Sadly I got the wrong one, they sent the large 2.8m version, though this time, like the XL version it has two entrances. Fabric looks more like normal silnylon than the normal knot fabric too.

    Anyhow they are going to send me an XL, but if anyone fancies one of these it would be worth making them an offer and I could post it direct.
    Weight of the single entrance one is 870g ish and this one I measure at 833g without auxiliary guy outs. It's a huge space for that weight.
    This pic is of my large that I swapped with my sister for the 3f SL3 copy.
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    £74.62 30%OFF | 860G Camping Tent Ultralight 3-4 Person Outdoor 20D Nylon Both Sides Silicon Coating Rodless Pyramid Large Tent Camping 3 Season
    https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/3wqUrXxi
    This add seems to be s single zip though.
  2. dbharris92

    dbharris92 Trekker

    Hi Enzo, have you taken the 2.8m version out for any nights? Wondering how it stands up in weather compared to the smaller ali express gear. 20D does bode well!
  3. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

    I've slept out in the 2.8m version that I used to own, but only in fairly decent weather. The 2.5 I'm now confident can handle a battering. I'd assume the 2.8 would be similar other than being bigger?
    Fabric does feel different to me on this one, more like normal silnylon.
    Monster space for the weight.
  4. dbharris92

    dbharris92 Trekker

    Slip of the brain, I meant to ask about the 2.5m anyhow. Looks like you've got an aluminum pole, is that from aliexpress or elsewhere?
  5. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

    Yes, I've used this very sturdy but very cheap adjustable one, I leave a section home and it will go from ~150-190cm.babout the weight of 2 normal trekking poles but hd.

    £20.65 34%OFF | 2.5M tent pole 5 sections outdoor special utensils
    https://star.aliexpress.com/share/s...sections outdoor special utensils&platform=AE

    It kept us dry for two weeks of heavy rain and wind this August!
    I rate them, price/weight/ease of setup.
  6. PhilHo

    PhilHo Thru Hiker

    @Enzo what do you mean by "The normal Knot fabric"?

    The reason I ask is I have one of these https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32832283656.html which has a more crisp material than the usual silnylon with very small 2mm? rip stop squares with rip stop threads that don't stand out much. Does that sound like normal knot fabric?
  7. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

    Yup that looks like it. Most obvious characteristic is that it holds on to creases unlike normal sil. Whatever MLD say, I've had very strong rain for days under mine with no problems. I trust mine.
  8. PhilHo

    PhilHo Thru Hiker

    And OK in wind?
  9. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

    Tent next to us in the lakes got flattened. The shape is very good in wind due to the cat cut and 8 sided shape.
    In the worst weather I pin them through the lineloc webbing, and use 6 plus guys. No problems so far. Is there a wind that'll do for it? Of course. Same as any shelter. I use mine for couples/family trips so rarely summits and I wouldn't think twice about using it now for any but the most extreme weather I'm likely to be out in. Not ideal for snow though due to fairly low angled walls.
    They rely on cat cut around the base rather than very small top vents for ventilation so in cooler weather the 4 season inners are recommended and very cheap.
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  10. PhilHo

    PhilHo Thru Hiker

  11. dbharris92

    dbharris92 Trekker

    Enzo, did the one in your first post come seam-sealed?
  12. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

    All the ones I've had are silnylon rather than sil/poly with seam tape like the 3f shelters, so like almost all sil shelters the sealing is left to the user. It takes 10 mins and I don't regard doing it as factor worth including when deciding on a shelter myself.

    I did see pics of a trailstar copy, not clear if it was the knot/flames cread one, that was taped though, so perhaps they are trying out different fabrics. The twin entry large knot I have is certainly a different fabric to the normal type.
  13. dbharris92

    dbharris92 Trekker

    @Enzo how do you rate air circulation in the 2.8m version? Condensation is a big concern here in Appalachia but the cat cut seems promising. I've narrowed my search to this 2.8m knot oct and the go-lite 3 copy.
    Last edited: Oct 5, 2019
  14. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

    The top vents are small, so ventilation comes mostly from the cat cut bottom edge and hence varies with how high it's pitched. If the 4p inner is usef, the 2.8 dwarfs it so no chance of it touching.
  15. Stumpghes

    Stumpghes Backpacker

    Enzo, does the new silnylon smell and crinkle like the old? Same color?
  16. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

    No, it doesn't crinkle at all, just looks like normal silnylon. I'm not sure if the version I got sent was a production model though, I've not seen the 2.8 with two zips, so no idea if they have moved to a different silnylon.

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